T-Bars Aren't A Relic Of the Past, They're The Future (2024)

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We’re only halfway up the Red Lift when Al starts whining. I have empathy. He’s a snowboarder and yesterday we lapped North America’s longest T-bar, the 1,700-foot-long main lift at Murray Ridge, a little-known community hill in the middle of British Columbia. Today we’re two hours south, sliding up the second-longest T-bar in North America. And while Troll Mountain’s Red Lift may be a little shorter, its track is steeper and more sustained.

I ask Al which one is harder. “It hurts,” is all he can whimper.

While Al is wishing we were riding a chairlift, I’m thinking this is exactly what skiing needs more of. Most ski hills have replaced their surface lifts with chairs, or are looking forward to the day they can. Of the 2,400 ski lifts in the country, only 88 are T-bars and North American hills only installed a handful of Ts in the last three years, compared to 140 other lifts. But no matter how desirable the high-speed chair might be, the humble T is going to save skiing.

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The owner of Troll Mountain (and daughter of the founder), Hildur Sinclair, agrees. If T-bars had a lobbyist, it would be Sinclair.

“Only optimists like T-bars,” Sinclair says. “They weed out the complainers and the snobs.”

She’s such a devotee she won’t even consider installing a chair. Troll only has surface lifts: three T-bars. The Red is the same one that Sinclair’s father, Lars Fossberg, started the ski area on in 1972. And Sinclair already has a secondhand T-bar in the resort’s parking lot, ready for an install as soon as she has the money to expand. Affording a chairlift, even a used one, isn’t an option.

“T-bars are the future,” she says. “We need more of them if we’re going to keep lift passes affordable, community ski hills alive, and the ski industry going.” Plus, they help Troll’s Yelp rating, she adds.

The volunteers behind Ascutney ski hill have a similar attitude. The ski resort sold off its five chairlifts, including a high-speed quad when it closed in 2009 due to poor snow and mismanagement. When the town of West Windsor and the volunteer Ascutney Outdoors reopened a smaller version of ski hill in 2015, they started with a rope tow and added a T-bar in 2020. There are no plans to splurge on another chairlift.

Also read: The humble rope tow is the heart of skiing

A new high-speed chair would cost at least $10 million, while a fixed-grip might go for half that, according to Peter Landsman, the editor of Lift Blog, a website that tracks lift installations. A new T-bar is a bargain in comparison at about $1 million. Used ones are even cheaper. Of the other recently installed T-bars several were used lifts bought by small community hills from destination resorts. New or old, they cost much less to run with lower safety and back up power demands; If they break down, riders can just ski away.

“There’s a lot of ski areas where there’s no way they could afford anything other than a surface lift,” Landsman says.

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That matters for everyone who loves skiing—even Al—because, news flash, our sport has an affordability problem. Paying $150 for a day pass, plus gear, food, transportation, etc., is out of reach of many people. Multi-area passes help make the sport a little more affordable, but they cater to the converted, not the curious. And while it may seem to the curmudgeonly diehards that fewer new skiers would be a good thing, they drive upgrades and expansions at destination hills and will care about the future of the sport when my peers, Generation X, go soft and turn to pickleball.

“Just about everyone learns to ski near their home and most people don’t live near a large resort,” notes Landsman. “You’re not going to go on a ski vacation to Whistler Blackcomb, Breckenridge, or Vail if you don’t ski. Local ski areas keep the entire industry going.”

Alternatively, an adult day pass at Troll costs $60, and only $25 for a child (7 to 13 years old) and $40 for a teen or senior. It’s still a pricey day for a family, but not the equivalent of a weeklong holiday. There’s no Starbucks or a boutique village, but there are homemade cinnamon buns and $5 beers. Without a magic carpet, rookies might struggle to ride the beginner T-bar the first few times. But the challenge builds independence, problem solving, and resilience, figures Sinclair. Society could always use a little more of that, she says.

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Personally, I like them because, tucked out of the wind, muscles engaged, it’s usually warmer riding a surface lift. And I never finish a day at a hill like Troll with energy to spare. Whether that’s from standing all day or from not waiting in line, is debatable. But after riding two of the longest T-bars in the world, at two of the most underrated ski areas in British Columbia, I say let’s build more T-bars.

Nearing the top of the Red Chair, Al isn’t interested in my propaganda. But he’s also not ready to quit for the day.

“It wasn’t as bad as I thought it was going to be. Let’s do another lap.”

Recent T-Bar Installs

2021

  • Le Massif de Charlevoix, Quebec: New short T-bar on beginner terrain as a shuttle lift to the new Club Med hotel
  • Nitehawk, Alberta: Small community hill is getting a used T-bar.
  • Saddleback, Maine: Replaced old T-bar with a new one.

2020

  • Eastlink Park, Alberta: Small community hill, replaced rope tow with used T-bar.
  • Sugarbush, Vermont: New T-bar replaced old poma lift in same place.
  • Ascutney Outdoors, Vermont: Revival of defunct ski area that once had high-speed quad. Small town-owned hill installed a T-bar instead of expensive chairlifts.

2019

  • Copper, Colorado: Terrain expansion, new T-bar.

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T-Bars Aren't A Relic Of the Past, They're The Future (2024)

FAQs

How much does a bar lift cost? ›

A new T-bar is a bargain in comparison at about $1 million. Used ones are even cheaper. Of the other recently installed T-bars several were used lifts bought by small community hills from destination resorts.

What is a poma lift? ›

Trademark. a ski lift having a disklike support, placed between the legs, against which a skier leans while being pulled uphill.

How much does a ski lift cost to build? ›

LiftSki AreaCost
Over Easy GondolaStowe Mountain Resort$5,500,000
Chairlift - Sixpack - Detachable
Bluebird ExpressMount Snow$8,000,000
Barnstormer Six PackHaystack Mountain$7,300,000
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What is AJ Bar ski lift? ›

: a ski lift having a series of J-shaped bars each of which pulls one skier.

How much is a bar to lift? ›

Your standard straight barbell weight is 45 pounds, is about 7 feet long, and can be used for most lifts, including squats, deadlifts, bent-over rows, overhead presses, and even biceps curls, says Wickham.

Why are lifting bars so expensive? ›

Cost Of Materials

They are heavy and bulky and their manufacture requires a lot of raw material. Materials that need to be mined and processed. And then fashioned into weights and transported. Labour costs also affect the end price.

What is a bubble chairlift? ›

Featuring heated seats, the orange, bubble-like enclosure provides lift passengers protection from the wind and snow.

What is bumping a chairlift? ›

The Lobster Trap: The nylon barriers that prevent runway skiers/riders as well as too much snow piling up into the maze. Bumping a Chair: When a lift operator holds the chair back for a more gentle seating. This is only needed on the “fixed arm” lifts.

What is a funitel lift? ›

A funitel is a type of cableway, generally used to transport skiers, although at least one is used to transport finished cars between different areas of a factory. It differs from a standard gondola lift through the use of two arms attached to two parallel overhead cables, providing more stability in high winds.

Can you come down on a ski lift? ›

Can you ride a ski lift down? Yes! You can ride some chairlifts and all cable cars down the mountain. In Sauze d'Oulx the beginner learning area is halfway up the mountain – to get back down the safest way after skiing is taking the chairlift down the mountain.

How much electricity does a ski lift use? ›

Either Diesel engines or electric motors can function as prime movers. The power can range from under 7.5 kW (10 hp) for the smallest of lifts, to more than 750 kW (1000 hp) for a long, swift, detachable eight-seat up a steep slope.

Why is getting off a ski lift so hard? ›

Packed snow under boots can cause slips. Organize poles carefully so both are gripped together firmly in one hand. Having two separate poles swinging around can complicate the unloading process.

What do you call a six-person chairlift? ›

Six-Pack. A six-passenger high speed chairlift.

What is a pony lift ski? ›

The so called "pony lift" with only 14 meters difference in height is the ideal practice place for the first time on ski. The Stock ski lift is located on the small slope near the "Kinderland". The so called "pony lift" with only 14 meters difference in height is the ideal practice place for the first time on ski.

What is a carpet in skiing? ›

A magic carpet is a conveyor belt installed at the level of the snow. Some include a canopy or tunnel. Passengers slide onto the belt at the base of the hill and stand with skis or snowboard facing forward. The moving belt pulls the passengers uphill.

How much is a 2 inch lift? ›

Suspension Lift Kits: For more serious tasks, a suspension lift kit can be anywhere from $300 to $12,000 for two to five inches of height. If you want six inches or more of lift, it can cost around $10,000, all the way up to $15,000, and sometimes even more.

How much will a shop charge to install a lift kit? ›

The Cost of Lift Kit Installation

Keep in mind that the total time it takes to install a kit varies depending on the manpower of your garage, and just like the kits themselves vary, so does the cost of getting one professionally installed. You're looking at anywhere from $400 – $1,200 for installation.

How much is a decent lift kit? ›

For a lift kit, you can expect to pay anywhere between $400 to $12,000. Obviously, if you're wondering, “how much is a 4-inch lift on a truck”, the price should be within the range given above, but if you need more exact information, reach out to our Fort Gratiot team.

How much does lifts cost? ›

Starting Cost – Comparison of how much a Home Lift Costs – 2024
Drive Method Starting Prices +vat*Ground to First 2 StopGround – 1st – 2nd 3-stop
Hydraulic£ 16,000£ 33,000
Traction (Rope)£ 14,000£ 33,000
Screw & Nut£ 20,000£ 28,000
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